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Must be a Monsoon - Is the rain back for good?

1983. About Half mile from my house. The large outcropping to the right is where the "storm surge" goes. Generally it's a peaceful wash and the tiny strip to the left carries a little water down stream.

1983. The same river, about ten miles in town. The photo was taken from a bride. That river you see is probably twenty feet deep or more. Any more there is six to twelve inches of water in it that span 1/3 the width of the wash. Unless it rains.

Fourth Avenue is a bustling "urban" culture center. They have a lot of good food as well. It's packed at night, people partying and drinking. This is mid town.

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Growing up in Tucson, AZ is too easy. The weather is arguably the best (driest) in the country. Sure you can find more stable temperatures on the coast, but think about the humidity, the hurricanes, and gloominess. Tucsonans have it made, although it can get very hot and quite cold. It stays well over one hundred degrees for about three months, and can dip into the teens on rare occasions in the bitter cold winter mornings (If a storm rolls in it stays right around seventy or eighty in the summer and 50-60 in the winter, but the humidity jumps)

Out of the twelve months in the year, however, we get at least eight or nine months of sun shine, a couple months of overcast, and a month or so of rain, the last twenty years or so that is. You see, although I am to young to have lived these memories, my parents tell me of a day when a monsoon was a monsoon. When the rains came in, which tended to be every night for a month, right about this time of year, and you didn't get to leave your house. You weren't going to drive through it on the roads, in many cases you had to leave the roads. It was just to dangerous.

You see, when it rains in the desert,. it doesn't roll in Sunday, and stick around till Wednesday, soaking the place. The storm rolls in, generally from the South, South-East, after building all day. 40,000 foot tall clouds, move in on the city, like UFO's hovering in over the 10,000 foot tall Rincon mountains. Lightning and thunder fill the black sky, streaking for the ground. It's the afternoon, and it must be a monsoon.

At three o'clock you watch it build, and five o'clock it's over part of the city, and by six o'clock the storm is gone and dumped sometimes two to three inches of rain. It doesn't sound like much, but imagine this, everyday for a month. The ground is saturated, and water runs, south to north, right through the city. The winds reach seventy miles an hour and power poles snap. 1983 was the last big one.

If you ever make a trip out to the desert, about this time a year, and you see a menacing dark sky ahead of you on the road, just remember. Proceed with caution. These storms dump a lot of rain, very quickly, and there are often deaths related to people trying to cross washes full of water, raging across the road. Or, worse yet, someone stuck in a wash because of traffic, or simply crossing a wash driving, and a wall of water sweeps them away. Generally however, before the wall of water, there is a stream to let you know it's wet. Oh yea, and the black skies roaring to life.

Tucson has grown tremendously in the twenty years. More so than in any twenty year period preceding it. If the rains return in the summer, a lot of people are going to be in trouble, as housing demand, costs associated, and the money being made has allowed housing developers to build right up to the banks of the largest wash/rivers in the city. A place no one would have gotten a permit to build just five years ago.

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{"commentId":917268,"authorDomain":"martinez"}

I love this town! The rainy season is great. I hope it sticks around for over a month. Sometimes, it returns in January.

When the flowers bloom from all this rainfall, I well post some picture. The desert comes alive. It's something else.

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    Reply#1 - Thu Aug 2, 2007 3:13 PM EDT
    {"commentId":917286,"authorDomain":"martinez"}

    By the way. The Fourth Avenue picture was Tuesday.

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      #1.1 - Thu Aug 2, 2007 3:17 PM EDT
      {"commentId":917427,"authorDomain":"baxter"}

      Monsoon season is crazy in Arizona. Hmmm, time for the 3 p.m. deluge. Better wait til 4 to go to the pool.

      Did you know that a very large part of Scottsdale is designed to carry floodwaters from the north all the way down to Tempe and the river?

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      #1.2 - Thu Aug 2, 2007 3:52 PM EDT
      {"commentId":917600,"authorDomain":"martinez"}

      I was not aware of that. The issue is, the desert in full of low lying water ways, for floods. Our cities turn them into roads...

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        #1.3 - Thu Aug 2, 2007 4:39 PM EDT
        {"commentId":917644,"authorDomain":"baxter"}

        There's a 14-mile beltway that goes north-south through Scottsdale. Originally they were going to do a concrete ditch like the one in LA (that's in about a gazillion movies) before somebody had the bright idea to do more with it.
        So, they built golf courses, playgrounds, ponds, and all sorts of topographic features designed to route the water south. Hayden road itself is designed to be part of the drainage, which is why the southbound side is higher than the northbound side. Even the baseball diamonds have breakaway chain-link behind the batter box to let the water better flow through. It's ALL designed to carry the water south, and instead of a concrete ditch, it's some very desirable property to be near.

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        #1.4 - Thu Aug 2, 2007 4:51 PM EDT
        {"commentId":917762,"authorDomain":"martinez"}

        Expensive to fix as well, when it floods.

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          #1.5 - Thu Aug 2, 2007 5:49 PM EDT
          {"commentId":917911,"authorDomain":"baxter"}

          That's the thing... it doesn't flood. The system does it's job very well. It ought to, given how large it is, and the immense amount of money and effort that went into designing and building it.

          Most people would never know it was there, other than the fact that Hayden Road regularly floods out (as it's designed to).

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          #1.6 - Thu Aug 2, 2007 7:04 PM EDT
          {"commentId":918564,"authorDomain":"martinez"}

          Maybe the Phoenix Metro area has their @!$%# together, so to speak. Tucson's engineering department needs some help in my opinion.

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            #1.7 - Fri Aug 3, 2007 1:12 AM EDT
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            {"commentId":917353,"authorDomain":"integraldynamics"}

            I have been once in Phoenix and Sedona.

            Really liked those places.

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            Reply#2 - Thu Aug 2, 2007 3:35 PM EDT
            {"commentId":917374,"authorDomain":"martinez"}

            Sedona is beautiful. You should see it when it snows... Phoenix, not a fan. To big for my taste.

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              #2.1 - Thu Aug 2, 2007 3:40 PM EDT
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              {"commentId":2087896,"authorDomain":"sybiletc"}

              Oh, how I love a good Monsoon storm. Here in the East Valley we have gotten dryer and dryer.. I do remember the Monsoon you described... and wish it would come back. It used to be much like this up here too, just not as much rain.

              my parents tell me of a day when a monsoon was a monsoon. When the rains came in, which tended to be every night for a month, right about this time of year, and you didn't get to leave your house.

              I love weather, and storms, and each year it seems longer and longer I wait, and less and less I get...

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              Reply#3 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:50 PM EDT
              {"commentId":2091524,"authorDomain":"sybiletc"}

              I just looked at your pictures again, and realized that the top ones are from 1983. I remember that year, I still lived here in the valley and it rained like crazy here that year too. I remember because it was the year my husband and I got married.

              Sure hope we get some rain this year....

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              Reply#4 - Tue Jul 1, 2008 12:46 AM EDT
              {"commentId":2093051,"authorDomain":"martinez"}

              Yea, I hear 83 was a doozie, I wasn't exactly a live at the time =P

              The top one is right off of Silverbell road.

              I'm with ya, I hope it starts raining like it used too!

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                #4.1 - Tue Jul 1, 2008 9:29 AM EDT
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